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boxboss
06-20-2008, 04:38 PM
I'm not sure if :bmw: plans to import the 318d to the US, but they should. I was shocked that it's the most fuel stingy in the class - 60.1mpg. :shocked004: It would sell like hotcakes even to non-traditional BMW types.

This from Yahoo Cars UK: http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/22042008/49/bmw-318d-50.html

http://l.yimg.com/i/ng/sh/5best/20080422/10/1175501766-bmw-318d.jpg?x=129&y=86&q=80&sig=v4lYPiEuBlzqSJga_j8r0g--

In the so-called D-segment, there are a huge number of makes and models competing for the same customers, but it didn't take long to whittle out the efficient cars. Really, three stand apart from the others. Taking the bronze medal is Ford's new Mondeo Econetic, which, like the Focus, has been tweaked to slip through the air easier and hence returns 53.3mpg on the combined cycle, with 139g/km CO2.

Thanks to using an efficient 1.5-litre dCi turbodiesel, Renault's Laguna betters the Mondeo's figures with 130g/km and 57.6mpg. However, it came as a surprise to discover that a BMW, supposedly the keen driver's choice, is the most efficient car in this class. The 318d - which uses a 2.0-litre engine - almost ducks under Ken's barrier with 123g/km of CO2 and a highly impressive 60.1mpg on the combined cycle. This result is partially thanks to BMW's innovative EfficientDynamics updates, including Stop-Start. Of course, it costs more than some rivals, but we'd argue it should be worth it.

nealh
06-20-2008, 04:42 PM
I'm not sure if :bmw: plans to import the 318d to the US, but they should. I was shocked that it's the most fuel stingy in the class - 60.1mpg. :shocked004: It would sell like hotcakes even to non-traditional BMW types.

This from Yahoo Cars UK: http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/22042008/49/bmw-318d-50.html

http://l.yimg.com/i/ng/sh/5best/20080422/10/1175501766-bmw-318d.jpg?x=129&y=86&q=80&sig=v4lYPiEuBlzqSJga_j8r0g-- (http://l.yimg.com/i/ng/sh/5best/20080422/10/1175501766-bmw-318d.jpg?x=129&y=86&q=80&sig=v4lYPiEuBlzqSJga_j8r0g--)

In the so-called D-segment, there are a huge number of makes and models competing for the same customers, but it didn't take long to whittle out the efficient cars. Really, three stand apart from the others. Taking the bronze medal is Ford's new Mondeo Econetic, which, like the Focus, has been tweaked to slip through the air easier and hence returns 53.3mpg on the combined cycle, with 139g/km CO2.

Thanks to using an efficient 1.5-litre dCi turbodiesel, Renault's Laguna betters the Mondeo's figures with 130g/km and 57.6mpg. However, it came as a surprise to discover that a BMW, supposedly the keen driver's choice, is the most efficient car in this class. The 318d - which uses a 2.0-litre engine - almost ducks under Ken's barrier with 123g/km of CO2 and a highly impressive 60.1mpg on the combined cycle. This result is partially thanks to BMW's innovative EfficientDynamics updates, including Stop-Start. Of course, it costs more than some rivals, but we'd argue it should be worth it.
BMW.... very impressive:shocked004:

this makes a diesel cost effective

AusBmw
06-20-2008, 05:17 PM
BMW.... very impressive:shocked004:

this makes a diesel cost effective


I'm sorry but diesel must still be dirt cheap state side, yesterday while only getting 11 liters of Aussie/Europe RON 98 for a 20 buck note, diesel was $1.87 per liter.

According to bmw Australia's web site ,the 320d gets 7.9L per 100 km's city, the 320i gets 11L per 100 km's city, now my point is even at to days prices I'd still be happy too pay for the petrol, the other thing is how many tanks of diesel does it take to recopue the higher purcahse price of any diesel?

MalibuBimmer
06-20-2008, 05:21 PM
Diesel fuel is no longer cost efficient in the US, unless you're comparing my M6 (gas - 4.97@gal, 13.2 MPG) with my Dodge Dually (diesel - $5.29@gal, 17 MPG, 16 MPG towing). In each instance the diesel is a better buy, but only slightly. However, I can't haul more than a couple of briefcases in the M6 while I can haul lots of horses with the Dodge.

For smaller disparities diesel is more expensive and the heart attack you have after filling up will more than offset any savings.

nealh
06-20-2008, 05:27 PM
Diesel fuel is no longer cost efficient in the US, unless you're comparing my M6 (gas - 4.97@gal, 13.2 MPG) with my Dodge Dually (diesel - $5.29@gal, 17 MPG, 16 MPG towing). In each instance the diesel is a better buy, but only slightly. However, I can't haul more than a couple of briefcases in the M6 while I can haul lots of horses with the Dodge.

For smaller disparities diesel is more expensive and the heart attack you have after filling up will more than offset any savings.
Mal where talking 60mpg vs even 30mpg....it should be very cost effective...one for the gas and 2 the MI(heart attack) will reduce population and pollution, fewer drivers, less fossil fuel use:shocked004:...
very green:woohoo:

AusBmw
06-20-2008, 05:34 PM
Diesel fuel is no longer cost efficient in the US, unless you're comparing my M6 (gas - 4.97@gal, 13.2 MPG) with my Dodge Dually (diesel - $5.29@gal, 17 MPG, 16 MPG towing). In each instance the diesel is a better buy, but only slightly. However, I can't haul more than a couple of briefcases in the M6 while I can haul lots of horses with the Dodge.

For smaller disparities diesel is more expensive and the heart attack you have after filling up will more than offset any savings.


Exactly, that's what the car makers aren't telling people, so they go of in there own little world thinking there saving money.

Oh the 320d only comes with a 60L tank:shocked004::shocked004::i_sad:

boxboss
06-20-2008, 06:08 PM
Exactly, that's what the car makers aren't telling people, so they go of in there own little world thinking there saving money.

Oh the 320d only comes with a 60L tank:shocked004::shocked004::i_sad:
In Mal's comparison, the diesel isn't cost effective except when weight/$ is factored in. In the BMW 318d's case, comparing it's 60mpg on diesel v say a 35mpg gas Ford Focus, it is quite efficient and wins hands down. That's the type of difference BMW could market to win a lot of converts. Providing, of course, it's not priced like a 135.

InsidiousSpeed
06-20-2008, 06:14 PM
Diesel engines are now probably making sense for smaller cars. By that, I guess 4 cycliner, sub 150kW cars. Other than that, maybe a big SUV that needs the initial pull.

In any case, so long as BMW doesn't stick diesels in their flagship cars, I'm cool. (The 635d isn't available down here).

MalibuBimmer
06-20-2008, 07:40 PM
Mal where talking 60mpg vs even 30mpg....it should be very cost effective...one for the gas and 2 the MI(heart attack) will reduce population and pollution, fewer drivers, less fossil fuel use:shocked004:...
very green:woohoo:

:specs:

Gman
06-21-2008, 09:01 AM
Hydrogen. Electric. Bio-Fuel and Coal...:pape:

MalibuBimmer
06-21-2008, 01:33 PM
Hydrogen. Electric. Bio-Fuel and Coal...:pape:
Brainwaves.