Zaino CS

[boxboss]

I used Zaino CS for the first time this weekend - this stuff is "'da bomb!" I did a full Zaino detail on the GL450 finishing with CS, with impressive results. The remarkable effects of CS came through on the 7er, though.

I've only used carnauba on the Toledo Blue 7er since day one (it will be 3 years old in September.) It has been a month or so since the last application. After I finished the GL, I washed the 7 and while the water was still beading, the shine was lacking. Zaino says CS can be used on top of any other product except uncured wax. I figured 30 days of MS heat should qualify as cured wax, so I said, "What the heck, it looks great on the GL, I'll give it a try." One application with no prep other than a regular wash and dry and the shine is amazing. The paint hasn't shined like this since it's first detail.

It took maybe 20 minutes to apply a single coat - less than carnauba and a lot less than 3 coats of Zaino. Time will tell if the shine lasts as advertised, especially over carnuaba - polymers typically do not want to stick to wax. Even if it lasts 6 weeks, that will be equal to carnauba, less work, and a much better shine. You guys should try this stuff.:thumb:

[BHR4CE1]

You guys should try this stuff.:thumb:

I've been using CS since it first came out. It is on ALL of my cars, as well as other things around the house. Try it on your wheels, you will be amazes how well brake dust comes off!

So far it has done everything that Sal said it would :bravo: , and it seems to last a long time.

There is no product out there like it. :bow:

[Enigma]

So far it has done everything that Sal said it would :bravo: , and it seems to last a long time.

There is no product out there like it. :bow:[/quote]

Lord Bear, ( :offtopic: ) do you think this product could help me remove the nasty water spots (or so they look) from my car? I tried everything (but a professional detailing, as I prefer to detail my 6er myself) and to no avail. These spots (again, they look like a faded water marks) are still there.
Please :helpsign: . Thank you :bow:
VR>

[mjames]

It's pretty good stuff, has anyone had success with it on dark colors? I must have applied too much on my black M3 because it was hazy and didn't dry properly. I like using Z-AIO as a base coat for daily drivers, then Z-CS on top of it. But I must admit, I haven't used Zaino much lately. I've switched to a Porter Cable machine polisher and Menzerna polishes. That machine orbiter transforms the paint finish in ways your hand simply can't and I really notice the difference upon touch ... it's more glossy.

[BHR4CE1]

Lord Bear, ( :offtopic: ) do you think this product could help me remove the nasty water spots (or so they look) from my car? I tried everything (but a professional detailing, as I prefer to detail my 6er myself) and to no avail. These spots (again, they look like a faded water marks) are still there.
Please :helpsign: . Thank you :bow:
VR>


ZCS will NOT remove this type of damage. ZCS is a sealant, and has no cleaning or abrasive properties.

Surface water spots- (AKA Stage One Corrosion) are basically alkaline watermarks consisting of calcium (Ca) and magnesium (Mg) both of which are basic (alkaline pH 10) that rest on the surface. Adding ultra violet (heat) radiation (UVR/sun) will leave a white ‘water mark’, the minute crystals bond to the surface (clear coat), and they will not wash off as they are insoluble and if left for any length of time they will etch the paint film surface leaving a concave circular mark.

This is why filtration systems like CR SPOTLESS are so amazing. I can wash my cars and let them air dry with NO spots! This is because all the calcium and magnesium in regular water that causes the spots is not present in my wash water.

If you can feel the spots with your fingers, you may be able to remove surface deposits with detailer’s clay and an acetic acid pH 2.0 (vinegar) to naturalize the alkaline, but claying will not remove things that you cannot feel. Do you own a PC? If so, try using some ZPC. Keep in mind that if you clay or use ZPC, you will have to re-protect that area, as all waxes and polishes will be removed.

There is a product called Duragloss water spot remover that I have heard works fairly well, and does NOT removed your protective layer. I personally have not used it, but you might be able to find out more about it on Google. I am not sure when the last time you detailed your vehicle, but maybe this water spot incident is a good excuse to get out the supplies and go to town!

Good luck, and let us know how you make out!

[BHR4CE1]

It's pretty good stuff, has anyone had success with it on dark colors? I must have applied too much on my black M3 because it was hazy and didn't dry properly. I like using Z-AIO as a base coat for daily drivers, then Z-CS on top of it. But I must admit, I haven't used Zaino much lately. I've switched to a Porter Cable machine polisher and Menzerna polishes. That machine orbiter transforms the paint finish in ways your hand simply can't and I really notice the difference upon touch ... it's more glossy.


Yup, the Menzerna stuff is nice, but I think overall I still prefer Zaino. It's just a bit more user friendly IMO. I seem to get the same gloss with the ease of ZAIO and ZCS with VERY little effort, vs. a whole day with the PC and the Menzerna.

As far as your steaks go...I have a black car too, and I had the same problem the first time I used CS. The amount of this stuff that you actually need to use is infinitesimal. I have used it on 4 cars, and it looks like the level in the bottle is almost the same as when I bought it!

When I had first used it, and ran into the same thing with the hazy results; I posted my concerns and complaints to an old website I used to belong to. About 10 minutes later, my phone rings and it's Sal Zaino. After he yelled at me a bit (He has a new M6, so he can do that) he asked me how much butter I could put on an English Muffin before it started running all over the place. Just then, I finally "got it" as far as the entire Zaino line is concerned. Less is DEFINITELY more. Any haze from too much CS can be VERY easily removed with a MF cloth slightly dampened with distilled water.

I have gotten my best results with CS as follows:

Right after washing the car, give it a coat of Z8. The NEXT DAY (Z8 takes a day to cure, and really get glossy), apply the CS as directed. The CS will lock in that glossy shine and protect it like three coats of Z2P or Z5P, and is SO much easier to apply. The CS seems to last a VERY long time too!

[BHR4CE1]

It's pretty good stuff, has anyone had success with it on dark colors? I must have applied too much on my black M3 because it was hazy and didn't dry properly. I like using Z-AIO as a base coat for daily drivers, then Z-CS on top of it. But I must admit, I haven't used Zaino much lately. I've switched to a Porter Cable machine polisher and Menzerna polishes. That machine orbiter transforms the paint finish in ways your hand simply can't and I really notice the difference upon touch ... it's more glossy.


Yup, the Menzerna stuff is nice, but I think overall I still prefer Zaino. It's just a bit more user friendly IMO. I seem to get the same gloss with the ease of ZAIO and ZCS with VERY little effort, vs. a whole day with the PC and the Menzerna.

As far as your streaks go...I have a black car too, and I had the same problem the first time I used CS. The amount of this stuff that you actually need to use is infinitesimal. I have used it on 4 cars, and it looks like the level in the bottle is almost the same as when I bought it!

When I had first used it, and ran into the same thing with the hazy results; I posted my concerns and complaints to an old website I used to belong to. About 10 minutes later, my phone rings and it's Sal Zaino. After he yelled at me a bit (He has a new M6, so he can do that) he asked me how much butter I could put on an English Muffin before it started running all over the place. Just then, I finally "got it" as far as the entire Zaino line is concerned. Less is DEFINITELY more. Any haze from too much CS can be VERY easily removed with a MF cloth slightly dampened with distilled water.

I have gotten my best results with CS as follows:

Right after washing the car, give it a coat of Z8. The NEXT DAY (Z8 takes a day to cure, and really get glossy), apply the CS as directed. The CS will lock in that glossy shine and protect it like three coats of Z2P or Z5P, and is SO much easier to apply. The CS seems to last a VERY long time too!

[karen1122]

mjames,

Z-CS is some unique and powerful stuff!! Bear's comments are exactly the same as I have received from Sal. Z-CS must be applied to a fully cured base and Z-8 does take time to cure. When applying less is definately more. One spritz on the pad and one per panel is my maximum application.

Additionally, Bear's comments on the water marks are spot on. IMHO the key to detailing is the prep work and everything must be just as you like it before the sealant goes on. Water spots are tough to get out and I typically choose the polishing method following neutralization to accomplish this. From a PM side, our water quality here is very good, therefore, I believe that the purification system is not needed. I do however continue to have issues in the area just behind the rear window of my 6er. Following a rain, the water beads and has the tendency to dry into spots. The Z-CS has done a good job at protecting it, but it must be watched.

If you are using Z-CS, try it on the wheels. It will amaze you with how easily the break dust just rinses off!

[BHR4CE1]

If you are using Z-CS, try it on the wheels. It will amaze you with how easily the break dust just rinses off!


Yup, just like I said earlier in this post, but I actually use one of those swifter duster things between washes if I want to get the brake dust off the wheels without having to haul out the hose. Works VERY well and I just toss it in the garbage!

:mrgreen:

[boxboss]

...do you think this product could help me remove the nasty water spots (or so they look) from my car?VR>

I use Klasse AIO for removal of water spots and in prep for Zaino. You can apply it by hand but a PC does a better job. It also does a great job on wheels.